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I was reading the tire plug thread. I am somewhat familiar with plugs for bicycle tires, but not so much for auto tires.

I have a spare in my rav, but is using a plug in the case of a flat something that can be done as a field repair by the side of the road (if l have a pump), or must it be done at home or in a shop? If doing the repair myself, what are good printed or online resources to learn everything l need to know to do an excellent repair? What are good plug repair kits or materials? Any other suggestions? Thanks.
 
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They are pretty easy to do and straight forward. I have only done it once on my wife's horse trailer. And it held up fine. I just bought a repair kit at the local auto parts store. I did remove the tire to do it.
Thanks.

But there is no way l would be able to remove and reinstall an auto tire (off and on the rim) by the side of the road or even at home. So how do people do this?
 
Thanks.

But there is no way l would be able to remove and reinstall an auto tire (off and on the rim) by the side of the road or even at home. So how do people do this?
You don't remove it off the rim. When I said remove, I meant I just pulled the tire off the car. It is basically a round rubber piece that you put on a tool that comes in the kit. Like a small piece of licorice for lack of a better explanation and then coat it with a glue and stab it in the hole and pull it back out. And then trim off the excess. If that makes sense.

Removing and reinstalling an automotive tire off the rim without that tool used in tire shops would be difficult if not impossible. I have done riding lawn mower tires by hand and it was a PITA.

 
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You don't remove it off the rim. When I said remove, I meant I just pulled the tire off the car. It is basically a round rubber piece that you put on a tool that comes in the kit. Like a small piece of licorice for lack of a better explanation and then coat it with a glue and stab it in the hole and pull it back out. And then trim off the excess. If that makes sense.

Removing and reinstalling an automotive tire off the rim without that tool used in tire shops would be difficult if not impossible. I have done riding lawn mower tires by hand and it was a PITA.

Yes, l understand plugs generally. Beyond what's in the kit, what other tools or materials are suggested? Like a blade to trim the excess plug? Better/more glue? Does the kit have good directions? Good to know about the wheel, as just removing the wheel off the car is no problem. Is this repair kit something that you carry in your rav? Or do you only do this repair at home?

Also whether at home or by the side of the road, if it is not visually obvious, how does one find a leak on a full size rav4 tire?
 
I was reading the tire plug thread. I am somewhat familiar with plugs for bicycle tires, but not so much for auto tires.

I have a spare in my rav, but is using a plug in the case of a flat something that can be done as a field repair by the side of the road (if l have a pump), or must it be done at home or in a shop? If doing the repair myself, what are good printed or online resources to learn everything l need to know to do an excellent repair? What are good plug repair kits or materials? Any other suggestions? Thanks.
My strategy is if I am on a busy highway, I will plug the tire quickly to get off the road if the tire is able to be plugged. I will then drive to a safer place to swap to the spare. I will have the tire repaired with a internal patch at a tire place ASAP.

For me, its all about getting off the side of the road on a busy highway quickly. Frequently someone is killed where I live on the side of the highway. I also have a safety vest and safety triangles.

As far as learning how to use a tire plug, there are many of You Tube videos that show you have to do this. Just Google, using a tire plug kit. Here is one video,



Here is the plug kit I purchased. Perhaps there are better ones but this one seemed to fit the bill for my needs.

TOOLUXE 50002L -35 Piece Tire Repair Universal Heavy Duty Tire Repair Kit with Plugs, Fix A Flat Tire Repair Kit, Ideal for Tires on Cars, Trucks, Motorcycles, ATV Roadside Emergency, Tire Plug Kit - Hand Tool Sets - Amazon.com


Check the air pressure in your spare every six months or so. They do loose pressure and you want it to be ready if you need it.

You also want to consider purchasing an air pump. Even if you plug a tire on the side of the road, it most likely will be way under inflated.

You have three different choices for an air pump.

One that plugs into a 12 volt cigarette lighter socket. I do not recommend this type as some will blow fuses.

Here is an example,
Campbell Hausfeld Mighty 150 PSI Lightweight 12V Portable Inflator with Safety Light and Inflation Accessories AF010400 - The Home Depot

One that connects directly to the car's 12 volt battery. I like this type but it does take extra time to use.

Here is example,
Amazon.com: VIAIR 88P - 00088 Tire Inflator Portable Onroad/Offroad Air Compressor for Car, Truck, SUV & RV | 12V On/Off Road Tire Pump Air Compressor Portable Heavy Duty 120 PSI, Alligator Clips, Twist Chuck : Viair: Automotive

One that uses a cordless tool battery. I like this type because it is quick to deploy but can be slow filing a tire and one needs to remember to charge the battery. Some also are able to be powered as a back up by a 12 volt cigarette lighter socket. If you already one cordless tools, check to see if your manufacture makes an air pump so you have extra batteries.

Here is an example,
 
Good needle nose pliers, to pull out the nail or screw that caused the puncture.
Agreed. I recommend a Leatherman tool for someone who does not carry a tool kit. This way they have a needle nose, knife, Philips head ect.

 
Yes, l understand plugs generally. Beyond what's in the kit, what other tools or materials are suggested? Like a blade to trim the excess plug? Better/more glue? Does the kit have good directions? Good to know about the wheel, as just removing the wheel off the car is no problem. Is this repair kit something that you carry in your rav? Or do you only do this repair at home?

Also whether at home or by the side of the road, if it is not visually obvious, how does one find a leak on a full size rav4 tire?
99.9% of the time it will be obvious where the tire is leaking. I only did it at home being the repair was outside of where a tire shop would typically be willing to repair the tire. And I noticed it flat at home. It could be done on the side of the road if you had a way to pump up the tire. It worked fine with zero issues. Everything in the kit is all that is needed and the instructions as I recall were easy.
 
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Excellent info and watched the video, thank you.

Looks incredibly simple, although far easier to do with the wheel off the car. Yes, l totally agree about getting off busy roads. So it looks like, in many cases, a plug repair can be done in the field in a safe location, correct? Assuming you have a repair kit, a multitool, and a pump.

I know we have spare tires in our rav4s, but do most of you carry a plug repair kit anyway kind of as a backup or 2nd line of defense?
 
Excellent info and watched the video, thank you.

Looks incredibly simple, although far easier to do with the wheel off the car. Yes, l totally agree about getting off busy roads. So it looks like, in many cases, a plug repair can be done in the field in a safe location, correct? Assuming you have a repair kit and a multitool.

I know we have spares in our rav4s, but do most of you carry a plug repair kit anyway kind of as a backup or 2nd line of defense?
I don't carry anything in my RAV4. I don't even carry an extra tool kit. This goes for all of my vehicles. I could throw something in there if I were on a long road trip. If I were to get a flat on a road trip I would just throw on the spare and drive to the next available tire shop. I do maintain my vehicles meticulously however. So I feel ok about everything. Some may feel differently.
 
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My strategy is if I am on a busy highway, I will plug the tire quickly to get off the road if the tire is able to be plugged. I will then drive to a safer place to swap to the spare. I will have the tire repaired with a internal patch at a tire place ASAP.

For me, its all about getting off the side of the road on a busy highway quickly. Frequently someone is killed where I live on the side of the highway. I also have a safety vest and safety triangles.

As far as learning how to use a tire plug, there are many of You Tube videos that show you have to do this. Just Google, using a tire plug kit. Here is one video,



Here is the plug kit I purchased. Perhaps there are better ones but this one seemed to fit the bill for my needs.

TOOLUXE 50002L -35 Piece Tire Repair Universal Heavy Duty Tire Repair Kit with Plugs, Fix A Flat Tire Repair Kit, Ideal for Tires on Cars, Trucks, Motorcycles, ATV Roadside Emergency, Tire Plug Kit - Hand Tool Sets - Amazon.com


Check the air pressure in your spare every six months or so. They do loose pressure and you want it to be ready if you need it.

You also want to consider purchasing an air pump. Even if you plug a tire on the side of the road, it most likely will be way under inflated.

You have three different choices for an air pump.

One that plugs into a 12 volt cigarette lighter socket. I do not recommend this type as some will blow fuses.

Here is an example,
Campbell Hausfeld Mighty 150 PSI Lightweight 12V Portable Inflator with Safety Light and Inflation Accessories AF010400 - The Home Depot

One that connects directly to the car's 12 volt battery. I like this type but it does take extra time to use.

Here is example,
Amazon.com: VIAIR 88P - 00088 Tire Inflator Portable Onroad/Offroad Air Compressor for Car, Truck, SUV & RV | 12V On/Off Road Tire Pump Air Compressor Portable Heavy Duty 120 PSI, Alligator Clips, Twist Chuck : Viair: Automotive

One that uses a cordless tool battery. I like this type because it is quick to deploy but can be slow filing a tire and one needs to remember to charge the battery. Some also are able to be powered as a back up by a 12 volt cigarette lighter socket. If you already one cordless tools, check to see if your manufacture makes an air pump so you have extra batteries.

Here is an example,
I was looking at your repair kit. Looks good, but does it include glue? Is the glue in a container that will prevent the glue from drying out after years of storage in your rav?
 
I know we have spares in our rav4s, but do most of you carry a plug repair kit anyway kind of as a backup or 2nd line of defense?
I carry a spare factory donut. Perhaps one day I will replace to a full sized spare.
I carry a plug kit and air pump.
I carry a can of Slime as a last line of defense. The slime will have to be cleaned out of the inside of the tire, rim, and perhaps the tire pressure monitor so I will only use as a last line in a dire emergency.


I also carry tools, emergency flares and triangles, a cross wrench for a little more leverage and versatility,

 
I was looking at your repair kit. Looks good, but does it include glue? Is the glue in a container that will prevent the glue from drying out after years of storage in your rav?
Thats a good question. Perhaps I need to check the tackiness of the plugs every once in a while or purchase new tire plugs. I believe the glue on the kit I purchased is already applied to each plug. Some use separate glue. The container is a lubricant in my kit.
 
I carry a paintball co2 canister with a regulator attachment I bought from Lowes years ago. It can fill a truck tire in about a minute from total flat. I once got a sidewall puncture on my Nissan Xterra on a busy highway on a business trip. I found a stick close to the diameter of the puncture and whittled shape like a barb in the end and pushed it into the hole. Inflated the tire and limped along the shoulder until a safe place.
I always carry multiple cheap plug kits from Harbor Freight in the cars. That rubber cement really doesn't help the seal it helps to insert the plug. Try inserting a plug without it!
 
If I'm in town I'm not getting out of my car, I am only a mile in any direction to a tire shop.
Or...
I will call AAA.

In my MX-5 Mazda I have no spare so I carry everything.
Including fix-A-Flat. I can give a guy some extra money for the mess.

If on the road.
Plug kit with T-Handles
Air pump
Slime
Fix-A-Flat
Make sure the spare is aired up.
Tire gauge
They make several brands of air pumps that look like drills & are battery operated, mine is a Ryobi from Home Depot.
I don't care If I ruin a tire, if I have to. Safety is paramount.
 
Excellent info and watched the video, thank you.

Looks incredibly simple, although far easier to do with the wheel off the car. Yes, l totally agree about getting off busy roads. So it looks like, in many cases, a plug repair can be done in the field in a safe location, correct? Assuming you have a repair kit, a multitool, and a pump.

I know we have spare tires in our rav4s, but do most of you carry a plug repair kit anyway kind of as a backup or 2nd line of defense?
I've carried plug kits and a compressor in our vehicles for over 40 years. I also carry them on my bike whenever I take an extended ride. Knock on wood, I've never had to use them on one of our personal vehicles yet. I have plugged several other people's tires and 2 different motorcycle tires that were pulled over on the side of the road. I've also plugged numerous truck tires & farm tires over the years. Of course like with everything else there's a huge difference in quality & performance in these kits. I use Blackjack brand & have always had good luck with them.
 
I keep this in my truck for emergency repairs when Auto Club is not available and I don't want to replace the wheel/tire on my 3500 truck, Travel Trailer, or boat trailer....

I also keep a Viair 88P in the truck

 
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