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2016 Rav4 Hybrid Towing capacity

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#1 ·
I m trying to make sense of the information found online about the hybrids towing capacity. I've read that the Rav4 hybrid had a towing capacity of 3600 lbs but according to Toyota Canada's website its only 1750 lbs. Did someone drop the ball on this or did Toyota change their mind?
 
#2 ·
No way it could be 3,600 pounds. That's about as much as the car itself weighs. Don't know the ratio, but the a vehicle must outweigh whatever it is towing.
 
#3 ·
Tried to find some data on how heavy a tow vehicle should be compared to what it is towing, and didn't find much. Just a bunch a talk about gross vehicle weight and such stuff. One person gave the example that semi tractors weigh much less that what they are towing. So, it must be something else.

However, for us non-professional semi truck drivers, we should adhere to towing much less than what we weigh. In this case, with the hybrid, it is rated to tow about half of what it weights.

I learned from personal experience one day when using my Ford Ranger 4.0 liter six cylinder to tow my Mercedes coupe into the shop. It was about a fifty mile trip, up and down over some pretty long, sustained hills. I learned very quickly that if I didn't keep my speed below about fifty mph, that I'd tend to fishtail. And, going faster tended to lift up the front end of the Ranger slightly, thereby losing all steering control. (It was a dumb thing to do, and I never did it again. Just too dangerous.)
 
#5 ·
the Toyota Canada numbers are correct.
 
#8 ·
katekebo, I corrected myself in the second post, (#3), giving the example of semi tractor trailers.
 
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#11 ·
From the 2016 RAV4 Hybrid owners manual:


â–  GCWR*
6710 lb. (3045 kg)
â–  TWR*
1750 lb. (795 kg)
â–  Unbraked TWR*
1000 lb. (450 kg)


GCWR is the total vehicle including passenger, cargo and fuel plus the total trailer weight.
TWR is total trailer weight if the trailer has brakes.

 
#18 ·
Yet in the UK, a similarly equipped 2.5l Hybrid has an unbraked towing capacity of 750 Kg (1650 lbs.) and a braked towing capacity of 1650 Kg (3630 lbs.).

It all appears to be due to different test procedures and possible marketing strategies by Toyota US. There's much more money in selling their trucks than in their small SUVs so guess which one gets the higher tow rating...

Since in the UK they say it's acceptable to tow up to 3630 pounds with a trailer having brakes on it, that's just as 'safe' here in the US in my opinion. And since there's nothing in the insurance policy I have in Massachusetts to say they won't cover the vehicle/trailer if I tow over the manufacturer's published guidelines - I'm going to take the risk and ignore them.

Why can they tow a 3630 pound 'caravan' in the UK legally and safely but I'm limited to 1750 pounds here in the US? It's ridiculous in my opinion and not worth worrying about if the proper tow-hitch is mounted to the vehicle.

As to the hitch - the only factory one offered is a Class-I hitch. Class I hitches are weight carrying (WC) hitches rated up to 2000 lbs. gross trailer weight (GTW) with a maximum trailer tongue weight (TW) of 200 lbs.
A Class I hitch usually has a 1-1/4" square receiver opening.
A higher class drawbar does not increase the towing capacity of the hitch.
Class I hitches usually attach to the bumper, truck pan or vehicle frame.

Toyota's Class I hitch mounts far more securely than the aftermarket ones in my opinion and is also tucked up higher under the rear bumper cover so it's less visible and doesn't significantly reduce the vehicle's ground clearance.

I think I'm going to put down a deposit on that 1670 pound (dry) T@B Max-S and keep it under the 2000 lbs limit of the Toyota Class-I hitch. Screw the published tow rating... It's all marketing and not based on the actual safe towing limit.
 
#20 ·
And Toyota doesn't say how they arrived at that towing capacity, do they... The SAE test procedure allows them to publish a LOWER capacity than what testing may have revealed for any reason they see fit. In England it's 3630 pounds. In USA and Canada it's 1750 pounds. Is there something Toyota North America isn't telling us??? Yeah - "There's more profit in pickup trucks than small SUVs".
 
#21 ·
Its not just weight of car but other factors. And has been mentioned above, transmissions are a big issue. I burned out a Hyundai transmission when I listened to the dealer instead of my gut and followed their recommendation the car wouldn't need an added on transmission cooler. If you tow 3600 lbs in the UK better have a transmission cooler installed.

With UK I'm wondering speed limits versus American speed limits. Now if anyone here speaks German, what is the towing capacity in Germany, thinking Autobahn?
 
#29 ·
I speak a little German, but I also live in Germany. You cannot compare towing ratings from manufacturers between the US and Europe. But I guess you can judge what the vehicle is capable of towing.

Two things:

1) Trailers are built completely different in Europe. There is very little tongue weight of a European trailer. The axles of trailers are almost at the center of mass of the trailer so that they do not put much weight on the car. You will see small cars here pulling trailers that are bigger than the car!

2) You cannot drive over 80 kph with a trailer practically all of Europe. Any trailer attached to a vehicle then you are restricted to 80kph, no matter how small the trailer is. That is 49.7mph limit. Trucks, cars, vans, doesn't matter what the vehicle pulling is, 80kph. You don't get to go unrestricted on the Autobahn :-D

The second item above is the big reason for the differences. A vehicle manufacturer is going to allow more weight to be pulled when the risk is lower.

I am looking at buying a RAV4 but one big black eye is the speed limit they recommend. They say not to drive it over 150kph (93mph). I drive 150 all the time in my current vehicle! I may be buying a Lexus NX 200t instead.