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DIY: T-SB-0041-13 Cold Start Death Rattle 2AR-FE (2.5L) VVT-i

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#1 · (Edited)

This DIY will replace the intake VVT-i gear on 2AR-FE equipped Rav-4s and other Toyota models. There is a design defect in the factory part not allowing enough oil to get into the gear during start up, causing the death rattle sound. See the linked TSB PDF for the parts list. This cost me about $300 to do using all OEM parts. The TSB calls for a special tool that I did not end up using.

I am at the DIY level to replace shocks, fluids and brakes. When I started this job this was at the max of my skill level. Now I could probably do the job again in a full Saturday. The Toyota provided instructions were really lacking.

This guide is provided to you for entertainment purposes only.

Let's begin:


Disconnect the battery and remove the plastic cover. The negative battery terminal is a 10mm bolt.





Go along the valve cover and disconnect all of the sensors, coil packs and push away the wiring harness. All of the nuts are once again 10mm. I disconnected the harness ends that went to the alternator as well. Once everything is unbolted you can pry up the valve cover.



Jack the car up and remove the passenger side wheel. There is a little splash shield held on by a few plastic clips that will probably break. You will then see the 22mm crankshaft bolt that you will use to turn the engine to top dead center.



Use the TSB diagram to find TDC. Then, paint it yellow with a paint pen. Turn the crank 10° counterclockwise to give some slack to the timing chain. You can then remove the top timing chain guide with the 12mm bolt.



Above the crankshaft bolt you will find the timing chain cover held on by four 10mm bolts. Pop the cover off and you will see the timing chain tensioner. Stick a pin into that chain link looking thing and remove the two 10mm bolts. You can now pry away the tensioner from the front of the car to pop it off.



Take a 14mm hex socket and remove the service plug from the timing cover. Then using a 17mm socket wrench and a large adjustable wrench over the camshaft remove the vvt-i gear bolt. You can then pry off the gear from the camshaft. Once the timing chain is removed hold it up with a rubber bungee cord. The gear will need to be rotated so the key way is facing 5 o'clock position to be able to be removed from the engine.





Grab your new gear and make sure it is unlocked. If it is locked or if you lock it up early during the install then good luck to you. I accidentally locked my gear up and the process to unlock it didn't work. I ended up buying a whole new gear. Look at the PDF to see if your gear is unlocked or not. Once the gear is on and the chain is lined up over it tighten the bolt down to 63ft lb. Once the gear is bolted down you can then turn the gear and / or the camshaft a bit until the vvt gear locks itself. Make sure to hold the chain down so it does not skip. If it does skip you can try to move the chain along the gear to get it back in time.



Reinstall the top timing chain guide by bolting the 12mm bolt down to 15 ft lb. You can now reinstall the 14mm hex service port bolt with a new gasket to 22 ft lb. I also replaced the three little oil passage gaskets at this time as well.



Next you will need to turn the camshaft a little bit counter clockwise to be able to install the tensioner. I used another rubber bungee cord attached to the sub frame to keep it pushed down.




I got stuck on this part for a few hours since the PDF didn't show how to reset the tensioner. Hold the little link down and push the plunger almost all the way in. Then use a pin the hold it in. Replace the gasket on the back side of the tensioner. It was tricky getting the tensioner back into the engine. Take your time and do not drop a bolt. Once the two 10mm bolts are torqued down to 7ft lb you can release the pin. I then turned over the engine a few times by hand to make sure everything was OK. Reinstall the timing chain tensioner cover with a new gasket by tightening the four 10mm bolts down to 7ft lb.



Place down some Three bond or equivalent down on the gap between the timing cover and the cylinder head. The PDF calls for a 5mm strip. Reinstall the valve cover by torquing down the 16, 10mm bolts to 9ft lb.

Reinstall everything else except the coil packs. I cranked over the engine without the coil packs in to make sure nothing sounded bad. Once the engine sounded ok you can try a full start up.


All of the lights went out except the maintenance required light; I cleared it with Tech-stream. This job should take a real mechanic a few hours but I spent three days. If you take your time and be careful you can save yourself $1500 by not going to the dealer.

Google Drive Folder for Photos: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/12_54eVNJVDkwSVmjEe4smUdVxsuAwT5v?usp=sharing
 
#4 ·
Well it's happening (sigh, sad face). There's quite a lot of reading and vids on the web about it. Even in the earlier lexus models with similar v6. It's really a matter of will the dealership mechanics do the fix or will I get the parts and tackle this myself. It would certainly be the heaviest job to date. Farthest I've gone is valve cover gasket on a 04 highlander 3.3. That was a helluva day. Some have suggested pre-lube system, which I would seriously consider if I'm confident there is no excessive wear that would lead to failure.
 
#6 ·
There are 3 timing chains to deal with in the 2GR-FE, and 2 VVT-i gears that I know of.
 
#7 ·
Excellent write-up and pictures. Thank you for posting your experience and all your data. I'm thinking of doing this some day. I'm about due for replacement of my spark plugs, so that will be the time. The complexity of this repair is what has held me back so far (although I have re-built older engines and changed timing chains/guides on newer). So far I have not heard of anybody's engine being damaged by this brief noise. It still can't be good for it. I wonder if there is a complete kit sold yet for this job?
 
#8 ·
Toyota has a nice website were you can compare a bunch of dealers for the price of parts and have them shipped to your door. I got all OEM parts using the part numbers provided on the PDF. They do make aftermarket parts but I did not see a kit.

 
#13 ·
I cannot thank you enough, it was because of your write up, and the garage estimates that I decided to tackle this myself... and whew doggy was it a job. but 2 days later.. job done, and I did the water pump same time. so $400 in parts and the rattle is gone. To those who said it won't have any effect, the understanding I got was the it's the internals of the gear that are wearing out causing the noise. When they go too far.. the gear goes, and the debris has the potential of killing the engine with it. The only edit I'd make to your notes is in the removal of the timing chain tensioner.. "pry" wasn't descriptive enough.. I ended up having to use a pry bar and thought I was going to destroy it to get it off. I also found a trick of using a long flat blade to push the chain guides in, and then wedged it against the axle with a block of wood to hold it out of the way in order to re-install the tensioner. In the end, the job is done, I've learned and gotten more intimate with my Toyota then I ever expected to, and we did the job for 25% of the low end garage quote, after buying a good chunk of tools to add to my garage for the job.

2011 Rav4 4wd 2.5L 152k miles.
prior to this I'd only done brakes, plugs, fluids, alternators, and a cover gasket on a Subaru.
 
#77 · (Edited)
The only edit I'd make to your notes is in the removal of the timing chain tensioner.. "pry" wasn't descriptive enough.. I ended up having to use a pry bar and thought I was going to destroy it to get it off. I also found a trick of using a long flat blade to push the chain guides in, and then wedged it against the axle with a block of wood to hold it out of the way in order to re-install the tensioner. In the end, the job is done,
I realize this is an old post but I thought I'd bring something useful to the discussion. Keep in mind, I'm struggling with this same issue and after finding what appears to be a solution, have not gotten home to implement it. If it turns out I'm wrong on this, I'll delete this post. I have not been able to remove the tensioner after following the instructions as I understood them.

Regarding the tensioner, I've found another Youtube video that does a good job of showing what needs to be done for its removal.

1) After TDC and removal of the top chain guide, observe the timing chain guide and the tensioner ram (?) through the tensioner opening. By turning the crankshaft counterclockwise (ccw), the chain tightens up in front of the tensioner. This straightens the timing chain, which pushes the chain guide back and as a result, forces the tensioner ram (?) to retract. I'd say this is just a theory but the other video clearly shows it happening as I've described it.
2) Insert the wire (or whatever you're using) chainlink looking thing on the tensioner. As I look at the tensioner in the YT video, it appears the tensioner ram has teeth on it and operates like a ratchet. The chainlink looking thing appears to be connected to some sort of latching mechanism. Inserting the pin into the chainlink looking thing engages the latch with the ram teeth, preventing the ram from extending.
3) Now that the tensioner ram is at least partially retracted and latched, the crank can be turned clockwise (cw) to release the tension on the chain. This relaxes the pressure on the chain guide and the tensioner ram. In theory, the tensioner is now loose, being fixed only with the bolts. Because I haven't completed the job yet, I don't know if there is a pin extending out from the motor block into a hole on the back of the tensioner. If so, this pin could be the main reason why the tensioner has to be forcibly removed.
4)After removal of the bolts, the tensioner should be much easier to remove. As I mentioned before, I haven't completed the process yet so I'm not sure what is going to happen. Because I don't trust any of this, and am doing everything I can to avoid removing the timing chain cover, I'm going to be very cautious. After removing the top bolt, I'm sticking another longer wire into that open hole. I'm pushing it in all the way to the end of the threaded hole of that open bolt hole. I'll remove the second lower bolt. Continuing to hold onto the bolt hole wire, I'll try to remove the tensioner. I don't trust myself and am worried I'll drop the tensioner, which is why I'm using the long wire into the bolt hole.

If the above process works, it should improve the process of installing the tensioner too. Just start with the crank turned a bit cw so the chain is slack on the tensioner chain guide. After installing the tensioner, turn the crank ccw to push the tensioner chain guide up against the tensioner ram. Remove the pin from the chainlink looking thing and the ram will fully extend against the chain guide.

I invite anyone who has completed this job to verify the process I've proposed. I'm interested in knowing if this is going to result is my completing the iVVT job tonight or my family having to listen to cusswords that haven't even been invented yet.


***EDIT 7/29/24
The job is done and I have to say, I would have done the world a huge favor by buying a RAV4 years ago. I could impart wisdom regarding everything a person should NOT do when changing the iVVT gear. I'm going to leave in my original post for entertainment. You'll see how delusional I was in my confidence.
The tensioner, while still in the engine (2AR-FE) could not be retracted enough by tightening the timing chain. You'll recall I saw a video which made it appear this was a simple process if one only knew about it. The tensioner ram went back a bit but not enough to really remove strain on it when the chain was relaxed. I came to the idiotic conclusion it was retracted as much as possible and continued trying to get it out, which it refused to do. I had removed the bolts and it still wouldn't come out. I even put the bolts back in while I probably way overtightened the chain, trying to force it to retract. On the next attempt, after removing the bolts again, it still wouldn't come out. Prying it didn't seem to help either. Keep in mind, I did loosen the chain and the chainlink pin was in place, locking the ram as far back as could be managed. At some point, for inexplicable reasons, the tensioner shot to the left, away from the chain. I have no idea why it decided that would be a good time to do so. The only thing that saved me from having to remove the tensioner and/or the back gasket from the bottom of the timing chain compartment, was the wire coathanger I had inserted through one of the bolt holes. The tensioner was very difficult to remove from the hole due to the ram being extended so far. Once out, I played with it, trying to get it to retract, nothing I did would allow it to retract beyond the distance allowed by the ratcheting gear. I figured that was the best I could do.
I managed to make two mistakes in one attempt with the iVVT gear. After what I thought was a smooth install, I turned the camshaft to lock it. Unfortunately, I did not keep firm control of the camshaft and chain, which allowed the camshaft to jump back. This caused the chain to skip a tooth on the exhaust gear (xVVT). I didn't think I could get it back in place without having to remove the iVVT gear again. It's only after removal you think about the fact the iVVT was already locked. I know the TSB outlines the process of unlocking but I have one of those dinky little air pumps which I had no confidence would supply enough pressure to unlock the gear. As a result, I did a bunch of research online and found a guy who had the most simple process for unlocking the gear outside the engine. I took it to work, where we have really great air pressure lines and was able to unlock it in no time. Just so you know, this process is ridiculously simple so I'll tell you how it works. Looking at the back of the iVVT, you'll see three circular holes and two rounded channels. One of the holes is larger than the others and mates to the pin on the end of the camshaft. BTW, when installing the iVVT into the engine, make sure the pin on the end of the camshaft actually goes through that hole before testing out your new torquewrench (ask me how I know this). Orient the gear in front of you with that larger hole at 12 o'clock. Press the rubber nosed attachment of your air hose gun into the smaller hole located next to the large hole. Iirc, that hole is located at approximately the 11 o'clock position. Give it a short burst of air. You'll hear the pin make a loud clicking sound as it shifts within the gear. If you then look at the right half of the gear, you'll see a channel that bends inwardly from approximately 5 o'clock to 2 o'clock. Move the rubber tip to the 2 o'clock position, where the channel goes into the main outer body of the gear. It's not a great fit because it isn't a round hole so you have to push it in pretty hard. Give it another burst of air. You should feel the gear rotate in your hand. If you turn it over, you'll see it now visibly unlocked with the two dots no longer next to each other. If you want to practice, you can always lock the gear by rotating it and repeat the process. It gives you a good idea of just how little force is required to lock it.
Getting back to our nightmare, I reset the chain into the correct location of the xVVT. The iVVT was reinstalled and I pressed down on the chain forcefully between the two VVT gears while I turned the camshaft to lock the iVVT. This time I was very careful to fully control everything and nothing unexpected happened. Still, I couldn't shake the feeling the crankshaft may have jumped a tooth at the same time as the xVVT. I'll continue on while that nags away in the back of my mind, probably taking years off my life. Because I had put paint on both the VVT gears and the chain, I knew the camshafts were correct. What I couldn't be sure of was if the crankshaft was correct. If it had skipped a tooth on the crankshaft, I could line it up to TDC but the only thing that wouldn't appear right would be the angle on the camshafts. One tooth off doesn't give you a lot of difference in angle so the nagging continued.
I spent a day and a half (intermittently) working on the tensioner. With it retracted as much as I could manage, it was a nightmare getting it into the hole. Nothing I did would allow me to get it oriented correctly to insert the bolts because the ram extended out too far, hitting the chain guide. All this time, I'm dealing with the newer version of the rear metal gasket, which is absolute garbage compared to the original. It's thin and flimly, easily bent at the clips holding it onto the tensioner. If you're doing this job, you may want to skip replacing that rear gasket as it really can't wear out.
As I've mentioned, I'm scared to death I'm going to drop something into the engine. So the entire time, I'm doing my work trying to hold a wire coathanger through a bolt hole. This sounds ridiculous now but it saved my butt more than once. Finally, I was near the point of surrender. There was no way this tensioner could be reinstalled. I took a deep breath and tried to distract my brain from all the nagging going on long enough to solve the problem. Whaaaaa??? I should've played with the tensioner more. While I can't tell you exactly what I did, as the OP described, if you push the chainlink looking thing up just right, the ram will press almost all the way back into the tensioner body (which squirts oil all over your shirt but amidst all this success that's now absolutely irrelevent). Ok, I'm officially an idiot. But I'm an idiot who has lived to fight another day. Now I can proceed to drop bolts, tensioners, gaskets and probably my wallet as well into the engine. Fortunately, none of those things happened. With the ram happily retracted, I realized just how small the tensioner actually was as I moved to reinstall it. Still not trusting myself though, I continued using the coathanger but this time, I put the wire in the bolt hole first, then slipped the tensioner over the wire before sliding it into the hole. Awesome, now all I have to do is put a bolt in the opposite corner and I'm suddenly into double digit IQ territory. The chain guide kept getting in the way though, causing some frustration. I took another piece of coathanger wire, bending it in such a way I could insert it into the hole at the bottom right corner. It did a great job of keeping the chain guide pushed to the right, allowing me to focus on the job of inserting bolts. With all the bends I wouldn't be able to describe how to duplicate it though. Getting the bolts in is not for the fainthearted but the only thing you can do to prevent them from dropping into the engine is to stuff paper towels below the tensioner. Of course I knew that but of course, being an idiot, I ignored those words of wisdom because of course that's why we're idiots. Still, I managed to get them in. I should mention that I was also worried about dropping the wire you're supposed to use in the chainlink looking thing. I'd already done so twice before but fortunately, it fell outside the engine. To prevent this from being an issue, I used a nylon standoff, which I found in my box of pc parts. It's about 3/8" long, with threaded male on one end, the other female threaded hole. I had a small wire terminal lug I could screw into one end, which I put a piece of string into, long enough I could pull it up should it fall into the engine. I shaved some of the threads down from the male end, which made for a satisfyingly tight fit into the chainlink looking part. One less thing to worry about is what Forrest would say. When the tensioner was finally installed, I just unscrewed the nylon standoff and the ram did exactly what it's been trained to do.
Someone posted a question elsewhere about the marks on the timing chain, asking if they were supposed to line up with every revolution of the crankshaft. I'd gone through this same issue with a previous job I'd done replacing the timing belt of a Tundra. They do not line up with every revolution. The marks on the chain/belt, camshaft and crankshaft are intended to be used for installation of the timing chain/belt. After the installation, assuming everything is lined up correctly, they will not line up on every revolution. On the Tundra, it took several hundred revolutions before those marks line up again (ask me how I know this). On the 2AR-FE, those marks will line up after fewer revolutions. Unfortunately, I didn't count how many revolutions but they do eventually line up again, somewhere between 30 and 60 revolutions. This is how I regained my confidence the timing chain had not skipped a tooth on the crankshaft. I just kept turning the crankshaft (after going to Home Depot to buy a ratcheting end wrench, which my wife complained about bitterly, asking "why are you always buying new tools"? All I could tell her is that HD doesn't' sell used tools. Ha-Ha, I'm still sleeping on the couch.) until the marks lined up on the camshaft and the crankshaft lined up as TDC.
Awesome, now what can I screw up now. Well...I'm not gonna tell you about that because it's really embarrassing having to explain why you need to replace your valve cover...eventually...it'll be ok for now...I hope.

TLDR:
You can't retract the tensioner much by tightening the timing chain. The video I saw was either for a different motor or the guy was just plain lucky.
I never was able to figure out how to remove enough tension from the chain so the timing chain guide wasn't pressing on the tensioner ram.
Play with the tensioner after you get it out. As the OP pointed out, it's not obvious how you get the ram to retract. If you play with it enough though, it will eventually retract to within 1/4" of the tensioner body. Don't even attempt to reinstall the tensioner without getting it to retract this much.
Consider using a nylon pin with a string on it to hold the chainlink looking thing that latches the ram. The pin needs to be tight so it doesn't fall out and the string will prevent it from being lost in the engine.
Using a piece of wire coathanger to hold the timing chain guide out of the way helped later when I needed to focus on inserting the bolts.
Consider using another piece of wire coathanger, inserting it into one of the bolt holes. This helped to slide the tensioner directly into position without worrying something would fall. It also helps if you get tired of holding the tensioner and it threatens to slip from your fingers.
 
#41 ·
I've got a 2010 Camry with the 4-banger engine. It's been rattling off for the past 4 years but I haven't done anything to it. Now that my bro-in-law has been using it, the rattling has gotten worse. Not sure if his sense of hearing is getting better or if the pin inside the VVT gear has gotten more lose. I'm thinking of replacing the gear as you have described in awesome detail, as well as installing the pre-lube kit. Have you installed the kit yet? If so, updates? Thank you again for your input!
 
#18 ·
Grab your new gear and make sure it is unlocked. If it is locked or if you lock it up early during the install then good luck to you. I accidentally locked my gear up and the process to unlock it didn't work. I ended up buying a whole new gear. Look at the PDF to see if your gear is unlocked or not. Once the gear is on and the chain is lined up over it tighten the bolt down to 63ft lb. Once the gear is bolted down you can then turn the gear and / or the camshaft a bit until the vvt gear locks itself. Make sure to hold the chain down so it does not skip. If it does skip you can try to move the chain along the gear to get it back in time.
I received my gear and it was in the locked position. I was able to unlock it using compressed air and a few junk parts I had laying around. The pictures below pretty much show this. The black cap was off a can of brake cleaner. I had to sand the edges just a very tiny bit to get it to fit and I used an awl to poke a hole in the top. I cleaned it very well before putting it on the sprocket.
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A bolt and nut was used through the gear so I could clamp the nut in a vice to hold the center of the gear and rotate the body when air pressure was applied. I had my compressor up to about 50 to 60 PSI and only applied that pressure for a second. Since the assembly is actually reversed from vehicle installation (i.e. held in my vice), I turned the body clockwise and it turns easy once pressure is applied.
 
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#19 ·
I received my gear and it was in the locked position. I was able to unlock it using compressed air and a few junk parts I had laying around. The pictures below pretty much show this. The black cap was off a can of brake cleaner. I had to sand the edges just a very tiny bit to get it to fit and I used an awl to poke a hole in the top. I cleaned it very well before putting it on the sprocket. A bolt and nut was used through the gear so I could clamp the nut in a vice to hold the center of the gear and rotate the body when air pressure was applied. I had my compressor up to about 50 to 60 PSI and only applied that pressure for a second. Since the assembly is actually reversed from vehicle installation (i.e. held in my vice), I turned the body clockwise and it turns easy once pressure is applied.
Nice that you got it unlocked. I bought a new gear from the dealer and returned the first one when I accidentally locked it.
 
#20 ·
Interesting post, and great photos and information. I used to have the "death rattle" at start up on my 07 V6. I now have 164000 miles and it barely ever happens anymore. I have used Mobil 1 synthetic oil since the beginning. Not sure if that has anything to do with it. I also live in Florida, so never any super cold starts. I just don't worry about it anymore. Maybe the parts "wore in?" At any rate, I am keeping this vehicle until it dies. Not much out there I like right now.
 
#22 ·
Just joined here to thank OP for his writeup. I just finished the job on a 2011 Venza with 2.7l 4-cylinder, which is the same basic process. My vehicle has slowly been getting louder, and has about 160,000 km. I ordered the parts needed (ref. TSB in first post for part numbers) from toyotapartsdirect.ca, with a total price including shipping of just under $300. The offending 'Camshaft Timing Gear Assembly' was $144 Cdn.

Here's a couple thoughts:
1.) That tensioner is a pain to deal with. A short piece of 1/8" diameter wire, or equivalent, will work nicely as a lock pin. I ended up using a roofing nail for the job. It was a snug fit, and held the tensioner nicely.
2.) Watch that tensioner gasket! Mine came off on removal of the tensioner, and ended up part way down in the sump. I was able to snag it with a magnet and extract it (gasket has steel core). Without that option, I could have been really in trouble.
3.) A bungee cord around the latch loop on the hood down to the timing chain worked well to keep the chain tight while swapping gear assemblies.

Total time was about 4 hrs including tool cleanup. After hand-cranking the engine through a couple revs', I put the key in, and it started up great, with no noise. Hopefully future cold-starts remain silent as well.
 
#33 ·
Has anybody heard of any engine failures caused by this "Death Rattle" during startup?
2011 Rav4 2.5 4 cyl. 87000 miles.
I bought used at 40000 and haven't noticed any changes in the noise during startup.. At first I thought it was the timing chain tensioner, which I've experienced with other chain driven camshafts in other vehicles.. Never experienced a failure..
Any ideas out there??
I have a 2011 Rav4, 2.5L 4Cyl with the "Death Rattle" during startup. My question?
Is there a long term consequence. Or will it happily rattle on to the end of the normal engine life.
Does anyone have a drawing of what this gear internal mechanism looks like?
 
#25 ·
Tell me please, how badly did I screw up???
I started with the idea that I will remove the camshafts one by one. Did not work. The timing chain is hard and does not allow to extract them. Then I removed all the bolts on the front cover to access the crankshaft gear. The cover can not come out. Seems, that I need to extract the engine from the car...
 
#26 ·
I had to remove one cross brace at the bottom of the cover and finally got it out by wiggling it around about 15 different ways. I was never able to get it back in until I removed the water pump. Best to reattach the front cover and drain your coolant so that none will get in the oil pan. Then remove the water pump. After you are done with everything you planned to do behind the cover, and cleaned up everything, do a couple of dry run installations. It can be tough to line up the flats of the oil pump. It is really frustrating but that cover can not be tilted when trying to line it up. After you're confident you can get the cover back on and have every mating surface clean, then apply your JV8 sealant. I know what you are going through. Note that you can also get a slight amount of up and down movement of the engine with a protective block of wood and a jack on the oil pan. Might as well replace the water pump if it has never been changed. I did this job on my 2009, 2.5 so I know it can be done, but a bit tough and requires a bit of patience. Good luck and give us a report.
 
#27 ·
Thank you so much for the quick response. I was ready to give up and called shops. No one will take it.
I thaught I may have to extract the engine. And then it occurred to me, I can suspend the engine from a crane, and drop the subframe only. And then I saw the short piece of subframe, that is held by 4 big bolts. Let see...
 
#29 ·
I never messed with exhaust sprocket but if it is anything like the intake sprocket, you might be able to use the method I described earlier in this thread. That requires that the sprocket be off the vehicle and you have to come up with something that just fits snugly in the back of the sprocket. I can say that once the internal pin is compressed, the sprocket turns very easily.
 
#30 ·
I took apart the old exhaust gear VVT520 aka 917-259. Angle-grinder-ed the bolts 2 flat sides, vise-grips. On the outside there is a big black hard torsion spring. It is easy to remove it with a large flat screwdriver. On the inside there are 4 chambers, not 3, sealed with composite material vanes, just like vacuum pumps. From what I understand, the spring is pushing the gears to the lock position, this is why even if unlocked, I can not turn it to unlock. I noticed, that the central bolt to the shaft holds the central part of the mechanism only. (Same as the intake.) So: Why on earth should we play the game of compressed air, unlock, torque, lock? We are torque-ing only the CENTRAL piece of the mechanism. The status of the rest is irrelevant-in my opinion! Alternatively, I can release the big black spring, unlock with compressed air, then torque, then attach the tail of the spring, which will lock the gear. Any idea?
 
#32 ·
Maybe that sprocket is bad? I really can't offer any opinions, but I can say that I had trouble getting the chain links all lined up until I had the sprockets set up right. I kept coming out with 1/2 link off. The problem is it has been a while ago and I can't remember if the chain goes on with the sprockets locked or unlocked. Hopefully someone here will know. 1/2 link off is no good because you really don't know which side of the tooth it should be on. You might be exactly on or you might be 1 tooth off. The last thing you want is to end up off 1 tooth and have to tear down and reseal the front (massive work). You may need to research this or talk to a Toyota tech that has done this a few times. These VVT setups certainly add a degree of complication to getting the timing set up correctly.
 
#34 ·
This is what we are talking about. I have this rattle for a year or so. Discovered, TSB0041-13. Some ppl say, the engine will fail anytime soon. Then I discovered some posts, you can drive forever. 180,000. Anyway, I am at the middle of the swamp. No one can EXPLAIN why you should unlock-torque-lock the mechanism.
Because, the central part of this mechanism, is the only element that connects to the camshaft. Why the positions of the other elements should matter? They do not touch the shaft. They do not know if the shaft is connected, bolted or tightened???
 
#35 ·
My understanding is that if you have the sprocket in the locked position and then torqued the camshaft bolt, the locating pin on the cam may not line up with the hole in the sprocket which could cause potential damage to either or both the cam and sprocket. This is particularly important when replacing the intake sprocket with the chain still in-place (per the TSB). You are somewhat blind to matching the hole to the pin and with the chain in the way, it is really difficult to feel the sprocket engage the pin. However, if you have the chain off, you can probably get a good feel for the pin going into the hole. I honestly think you will be OK if you can successfully mate the sprocket to the cam whether it is locked or unlocked. Once you get the chain on with all marks lined up and tensioner properly engaged but sprocket bolts a little more than finger tight, rotate the crank bolt turn the engine. Take a straight edge across the top of the two sprockets to insure they are square and not cocked. Check it at different positions. Any offset or wobble may mean that the pin from the cam is not in the hole. If everything checks out, torque the cam bolts. Note that you may never get the marks to line up again until you do many revolutions of the engine. This is really the critical part that you need to get right so you don't ruin your engine. Whatever you do, don't put the front cover on until you are confident that all the bright chain links were initially lined up with the marks on the sprockets and the tensioner is engaged. That is also very critical. I think you will get it from here!! Feel free to ask any questions. I'll check the board when I get a chance.
 
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Dear JBWood5, Thank you SO MUCH for your help and personal concern. I want to buy you a beer! Yes, I am aware about all details you mentioned. I had the camshafts on the table and I know the proper hole for the camshaft pin. I had the timing chain cover removed, and I was very careful about TDC on the shaft, and the proper positioning of the 3 gold links of the chain. My chain is so tight, so little slack, I had to remove the fixed chain guide. I have no idea how people work without removing timing chain cover. (BTW: to remove the timing chain cover, you need to remove a section of the subframe and drop the cover down.) Anyway, when I installed the chain, and placed tensioner, I cranked the mainshaft 5-10 times (no sparkplugs) to make sure there is no interferences. And the chain is positioned properly on the slides, etc.
 
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TSB-0041-13. 20200816. FINAL. Dear Mr. JBWood5 and all enthusiasts, friends and amateurs! Just finished the replacement of my VVTi (intake and exhaust) for 2010 RAV4, 2AR-FE. I resolved my questions, doubts, hesitations, this is what I learned. There is abundant information on the internet about the lock-unlock procedure on the intake side (Rockauto, SMP, VVT528, original Toyota). My new VVT528 came unlocked. I torqued the bolt to 63 ft.lb, and then turned it to the "lock" position. There is no information on the exhaust (SMP VVT520, also Toyota). The VVT520 has an external torsion spring. I released the tension of the spring, and tried to unlock it with compressed air several times and failed. I could hear the pin release "click" inside, but the gears did not move CW nor CCW. Then I took apart the old VVT520. The only part of the gear that touches the camshaft is the central element. The drum and the two bases of the cylinder do not. Therefore, IMHO, the "lock" or "unlock" status of the mechanism is not relevant for tightening the bolt! Just torque it to 63 ft.lb. Same on the intake side. Why do they have the "unlock" position then? Here is, again IMHO. The timing chain is very short every mm is important. In order to have enough slack to slide the mainshaft gear onto cranckshaft, I had to remove the both chain guides and stretch the top section of the chain between the two camshaft gears. I used two 17-mm wrenches, solid wire, strong rubber and imagination. The wrench on the exhaust pulls clockwise (right), the wrench on the intake pulls CCW (left), the chain is straight, and the two gold links are at the TDS positions. When intake camshaft is at TDS it pushes down on the valves and tends to slip left or right. This is why Toyota invented the "unlock", to avoid the two wrenches game. The unlock allows for the camshaft to go 10 deg CW, while the gear wheel and the whole mechanism to go 10 deg CCW, to stretch the chain easily. After the chain is secured in place, and two guard rails fixed, and the tensioner is activated, then grip the camshaft with a 24-mm wrench and turn it to "lock". I can make a short video of the exhaust VVT520, to show the internal elements, if there is interest. My RAV4 runs smooth. No more "death rattle at cold start". Regards, Nick
 
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Congrats on a job well done! Also, thanks for the report. Were you able to get the front cover on without messing up any sealant? For my RAV it was a very tight fit and tough to avoid smearing any sealant out of the way. I've worked on about a dozen FWD of different makes over the years with belts and chains but this was the first VVT setup. I'm glad to hear you got it back and running good. I figure you saved yourself close to $1.5K.
 
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Were you able to get the front cover on without messing up any sealant?
Dear John, I removed 2 engine mounts, the passanger and the radiator side. Jack under the oil pan. I removed a section of the subframe. 4 bolts, 17 mm heads. This allowed the cover out. A tricky part is that the mainshaft drives the oil pump directly. So, installation of the cover should be very slow and very gentle. First, I had a dry-run. No timing chain, no silicon. It worked OK. Then for final, I had my daughter direct the top, I worked on the bottom. I pushed very gentle and did not allow any forceful movement. Force will immediately cause jamming. I applied very thin layer of black max oil resistance gasket forming compound on both the engine block and on the lid. Then I tightened the bolts all of them, little by little, only 90 deg turns each. This way the cover was driven square and did not jam. Regards, NT