Been waiting for an update on this, any idea where you read it?

 

In this story. Look in the section titled “RAV4 Prime Fix.”

The Other Side of Toyota RAV Prime's “Moose Test Failure”

Is this test even valid?

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My dealer has the update and will soon let me know when I can come by for the update, I’ll keep you updated

 

I think all the moose test videos are on the same website: rav4 moose test - Google Search although this just links to RAV4 ones. Watching this, it's a "regular" RAV4 that failed and has had an update. The RAV4 Prime also failed, and I don't know if there is an update yet. What I thought was interesting is that the one thing the RAV4 Prime did NOT do is try to roll over. Clearly the CG is pretty low. (For instance, watch this jeep video, it's scary

) Toyota seems intent on making cars pass this test, so I assume we will get an update eventually.

 

I think all the moose test videos are on the same website: rav4 moose test - Google Search although this just links to RAV4 ones. Watching this, it's a "regular" RAV4 that failed and has had an update. The RAV4 Prime also failed, and I don't know if there is an update yet. What I thought was interesting is that the one thing the RAV4 Prime did NOT do is try to roll over. Clearly the CG is pretty low. (For instance, watch this jeep video, it's scary

) Toyota seems intent on making cars pass this test, so I assume we will get an update eventually.

I love seeing the VW Touareg shown in this. I had one in 2014 and loved the way that thing drove. But fuel mileage and lack of "tech" made me get rid of it.
Can anyone crossbreed a Touareg with a Rav4 hybrid?

 

So I'm getting the update next week, and from what I understood apart from the software update they also need to order some hardware for something related to the tire. Maybe for the tire pressure :S

 

Got the car updated today, software update + new stickers for tire pressure + one sticker about ecu updated under hood.
All new cars coming in will have this update pre-installed.
And I should mention it next time for service, so they don't reupdate the car.

 

Can you post pics of the new updated stickers. That way I can compare with mine when I pick it up in a couple weeks. Curious if the updates are automatically being done now.

 

Did they change the tire pressures on the stickers?

 

Don't know what it was before so not sure, but it says:

225/60R18 100H
x4
230 | 230
2.3 | 2.3
33 | 33

x5
230 | 260
2.3 | 2.6
33 | 38

 

Cool! I want to see a re test. I’m glad Toyota taking this seriously.

 

Anyone in the US get this update?

 

Anyone get the update for the XSE and have the new tire pressure sticker? If so, what are the numbers?
the original XSE sticker (pre-moose test fail change) in my door sill says:

5 passengers
Front 235/55R19 35 psi
Rear 235/55R19 35 psi

 

New software so Rav4 Prime performs better at the "Dodge the Moose" test. I hope this doesn't cause the Rav4 to fail the " Girl Crossing the Street with her Poodle" test.

I would hate to be the engineer that had to sign-off that new software. Although the testing could be fun....

 

The moose test is stupid.

Here is why;
*Moose just turn sometimes, unpredictable, hero manouver fails
*They fall on their ass and skid, I have seen that happen, same as above
*Lets overtake a moose while there is oncoming traffic, what a brilliant idea
*OK so lets overtake the moose with no oncoming traffic, great, but why steer fully to the right after the moose have passed, again stupid
*Altering cars for the moose test is stupid beacuse something else is then compromised, so again stupid.

 

Is there an evasive manurver test you would support? Or are they all stupid?

 

Any updates for US bound cars? So assuming ones with 33 psi is the updated cars?

 

It is the flying squirrels I get worried about.

Sorry, I will show myself out.

 

2nd thought... maybe they can put the new ESC calibrations in a separate drive mode button? Double tap Normal button for Moose mode??

Or work it into the Toyota Safety Sense 2.5? If an obstacle is in sight, switch to Moose Mode ESC calibrations?

 

Here is my understanding why this test is necessary. It may have another name than moose test, but in an emergency situation like a potential head on collision, this maneuverability will save lifes.

 

Does anyone remember what the pre updated tire pressure is for the SE? The new updated tire pressure is 33psi.

 

Pre-33 all around.
Post-33 all around for 4 passengers, 33/38 for 5.

 

I had seen this video too and wondered… we just got ours 2 weeks ago, US, tire sticker shows 35 all around I will look for that ecru sticker but I doubt they would add that if the update was done at the factory… any new news on this for US?

 

Which trim do you have with the 35 all around? SE or XSE?

 

So, is there any actual Moose Test update or not? I see people showing newly purchased XSE stickers showing 35 psi, but I just checked my XSE built in the fall of last year and yet to go to the dealer, and my XSE tire pressure inside the door shows 35 psi all the way around, so that new sticker is no change.
I also asked the dealer before I bring it in for service and they said they weren’t aware of any update.

 

So, is there any actual Moose Test update or not? I see people showing newly purchased XSE stickers showing 35 psi, but I just checked my XSE built in the fall of last year and yet to go to the dealer, and my XSE tire pressure inside the door shows 35 psi all the way around, so that new sticker is no change.
I also asked the dealer before I bring it in for service and they said they weren’t aware of any update.

Really would like an update. It'll make me feel better but at the same time I don't want them to mess up something else.
There's a trailer for a new review on YouTube where the car is put onto a test track and they describe it as the worst handling car they've come across or words to that effect. I don't know as I've got 11 days to go before delivery. So reserving my judgement.

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Not sure if it helps but coming from a 2018 escape it handles better, steering also feels WAY better.

 

I read somewhere that Toyota had come up with changes for the Prime for the failed Moose test / avoidance test, which they said included a software change and changes to tire recommended pressure under full load. Has anyone heard any more about this? Does anyone know what changes they made to the suggested tire pressure?
(I recall in one of the Moose Test pics the sidewall on the XSE compressed so much the rim was almost hitting the pavement, so I imagine the higher tire pressure would reduce the chances of that. ).

What about changing the ARBs front and rear. Ultra Racing USA has them.

 

Seems like the Prime (at least the XSE) performs better than the standard hybrid in this test. Even though there is understeer, I've had one occasion of needing a quick turn to avoid a car encroaching on my lane and my R4P steered well for me. Hope this makes other R4P owner feel more confident that the software update is already in our cars -- or maybe it's just the heavy battery.

 

Seems like the Prime (at least the XSE) performs better than the standard hybrid in this test. Even though there is understeer, I've had one occasion of needing a quick turn to avoid a car encroaching on my lane and my R4P steered well for me. Hope this makes other R4P owner feel more confident that the software update is already in our cars -- or maybe it's just the heavy battery.

Definitely does.
Looks like they sorted the ESC.
Handles much closer to what I would expect for a heavy low slung battery along the floor plate hence lowered CofG. This is now much better than the wobbly Mitsubishi Outlander yacht rather than worse (which I just couldn't get my head round).

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