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New 2026 RAV4 Revealed

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#11 ·
Not clickbait. This is most likely the new Rav4 replacement
Notice he does say, that he assumes it to be a new Rav4, he's just not 100% on that.

The pic comparison does appear to be a Rav4 model. Some diffs in body design, most notably are rear end (less angle on hatch) and the front clip. No roof rack installed? If it's in testing with a trailer in cold CO, then why no roof racks installed? The lower bumper air grill looks exactly like what they had on 2010 Corolla XRS.

Funny he says the Mazda looking wheels are perhaps just to throw people off. Ha, that's funny, if you want to throw people off then don't wrap the test vehicle in snow-leopard print, just paint it and debadge it (less the Toyota emblem). Everyone notices a weirdly wrapped vehcile, nobody really notices a debadged vehicle that is strikingly similar to existing models.

When he shows other pics he says it's assumed to be the same test vehicle, but I see the rims look different.


If anything, it looks more like the Highlander, which leads me to say again, I don't quite get the lineup of corolla, corolla-cross, rav4, highlander. They are all very very similar.
 
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#7 ·
That does not make it clickbait. It is newsworthy. Your arbitrary definition of it not being an "official Toyota press release" does not mean it is clickbait.
Again, there are endless clickbait videos with false claims about the new Rav4 with fake renderings. Neither of these are them. This is actual first shots of the Toyota mule for the next Rav4.
 
#27 ·
two reasons I would not be a fan of a turbo.

reliability: many of these new turbo engines that are designed for fuel efficiency are grenading engines like in the Tundra

purpose: turbo means alot of torque, something an electric motor in the hybrid system already makes gobs of instantly. Id rather have it mated to an engine that revs free in the higher rpms
 
#28 ·
A turbo at just +4psi will not grenade an engine. T's are more efficient overall, but making more power means more fuel use. You can scale a T to whatever the need is. It's all about tuning.

IMHO, big trucks (consumer grade stuff) make no sense for a T, use an SC instead. If forced air grenades the engine then we know the design/setup was bad. A tiny 2.4L in a Tundra also makes no sense, unless the owner signs agreement that it will only be used to take soccer balls to the soccer field.
 
#35 ·
turbo eV is not just more xyz. Its alot more weight adding a intercooler big batt pack and beefier internals wheels and tires
strike is my editing.
Pros and Cons to everything.
You don't need to go crazy when it's just +4psi. A 2.4 +4psi is way better experience in a small vehicle than a 2.5 NA. You can slap a small turbo onto the 2.5L and add a small IC and run at 4psi max, perhaps with a retune of some sort, and the motor should survive a decent life.
 
#41 · (Edited)
"renderings of prototype"
Need more be said.

Will the 2026 be hybrid or hybrid-ev (prime) only models?

It's a 6th gen vehicle. The CD illustration seems more like it, and CD has same question I do about all hybrid lineup.

Not sure what this 2026 Rav is (render or not), but its cool looking.

My guess is the 2026 will look like this.
 
#44 ·
"renderings of prototype"
Need more be said.

Will the 2026 be hybrid or hybrid-ev (prime) only models?

It's a 6th gen vehicle. The CD illustration seems more like it, and CD has same question I do about all hybrid lineup.
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Here's an earlier video that gives further details on the new RAV4, sourced from Japan. They state the new RAV4 will be hybrid, plug-in hybrid, and an EV version (no more gas-only models). The total HP is expected to increase based on a new generation hybrid system (similar to Camry). BTW, Car and Driver has never rated Toyotas well, even when Toyota has the best all-around vehicles that are best-sellers in their respective categories. CD is quite biased in my opinion (according to them, the RAV4 placed 6th out of 8 models, yet it's the best-selling CUV among all of them...).

 
#47 ·
I think it will be very challenging to keep approximately the same RAV4 vehicle size, but manage to find enough space for batteries to make it a full EV.

The most common “problem” owners note with current EVs is that the range is usually only about 240-260 miles. This means that before a long trip you need to identify charging stations about every 200-220 miles. The short EV range is even more of a challenge when you compare it to the 450-500 mile range many get with the RAV4 hybrid.
 
#48 ·
I think it will be very challenging to keep approximately the same RAV4 vehicle size, but manage to find enough space for batteries to make it a full EV.

The most common “problem” owners note with current EVs is that the range is usually only about 240-260 miles. This means that before a long trip you need to identify charging stations about every 200-220 miles. The short EV range is even more of a challenge when you compare it to the 450-500 mile range many get with the RAV4 hybrid.
Yep, the current RAV4 (Gen5) is not able to accommodate a large enough battery to be a pure BEV. Which is why they had to come up with the BZ4x, I would guess.

I think most EV owners can only daydream about a guaranteed 250 miles. Once you replace the low rolling resistance tires with grippier ones for winter driving, that's at least 10% hit. Interstate speeds will cost you another 20%. Below freezing temperatures (when the heat pump becomes less and less efficient) will impose another 20-30% range penalty. These all can math up to mere 150 miles of battery range - or worse. Gasoline-based vehicles are also affected, but - as you correctly observed - if you had 500 EPA miles on R4.5H you can still count on 350 miles of winter range. You can also count on the 150K gas stations that tend to be operational most of the time, and where you can pay with practically any legal tender vs only 12K stations where you might be required to have an account and an app/charge card. Oh, almost forgot: charging at DCFC may cost you more per mile than filing up your Toyota hybrid with gas :). Geez, even a L2 EVSE can charge like 40 cents/kWh!

Speaking from personal experience, which is broadly consistent with the info I have seen on the internet.
 
#52 ·
small ev's work great if you drive 20-30-40 maybe 50mi to work, and there at work you can park and plug it in and get 8hrs of charge time to refill the batt. And then you plug it in when back at home for the evening 8+hr charge up. Totally makes sense.

No parking garage or lot around here has charging at every parking spot, so make it hard to even find a place to charge up while at work.

ev's are a novel idea that started more than 50yrs ago. They have no future.
 
#53 ·
ev's are a novel idea that started more than 50yrs ago. They have no future.
Pretty sure folks riding around in horse-and-buggy declared the same thing... EVs are tools that are appropriate for many situations, but maybe not all. Just because they don't work for one does not mean they are useless or "a novel idea" - technology has improved and it will improve more, while charging will become more convenient over time just as gas stations became more convenient over time.

I'd love to have an EV as it fits my driving habits, but charging would be an issue - I do not have a garage or even an assigned parking spot for my condo. I chose the tool that works best for me.