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Not sure if I am too late for the party here. But this is a photo of the roof of my (american) 2022 Rav4 LE AWD. It has no raised roof rails or flush rails, just a rubber strip in a channel on either side of the roof. In the photo I have lifted up the strip and there is nothing but painted metal. No bolt holes, no plugs, no added plates at all. there is nothing there to attach a roof system to.
 
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Not sure if I am too late for the party here. But this is a photo of the roof of my (american) 2022 Rav4 LE AWD. It has no raised roof rails or flush rails, just a rubber strip in a channel on either side of the roof. In the photo I have lifted up the strip and there is nothing but painted metal. No bolt holes, no plugs, no added plates at all. there is nothing there to attach a roof system to.
You can see raised "bosses" in the photo where the holes would be drilled. I wish this was used on my '21 ICE XLE--no possibility in the future for roof leaks. The roof rails should have always been an option--not standard equipment.
 
You can see raised "bosses" in the photo where the holes would be drilled. I wish this was used on my '21 ICE XLE--no possibility in the future for roof leaks. The roof rails should have always been an option--not standard equipment.
But then you can never have a roof rack

Didn't you come up with a permanent fix using rubber plugs and silicone?

Nearly every other crossover on the market has roofrails and they don't leak

A third grader could have told you that designing a recessed rail with open holes at the lowest points, front and back, would be where water would drain

Water always drains to the lowest point
 
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But then you can never have a roof rack
There is really no need for a roof rack. It should be optional. I believe the great majority of people with SUVs from any manufacturer never use their cross bars (if they even have them) and never get a true roof basket installed. The plastic roof racks found on our RAVs and other SUVs are a styling affectation to give the impression that these are rugged, he-man cars.
 
There is really no need for a roof rack. It should be optional. I believe the great majority of people with SUVs from any manufacturer never use their cross bars (if they even have them) and never get a true roof basket installed. The plastic roof racks found on our RAVs and other SUVs are a styling affectation to give the impression that these are rugged, he-man cars.
I use mine all the time. In the summer I transport bikes and in the winter I haul skis or a cargo box. Its quite useful
 
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I use mine all the time. In the summer I transport bikes and in the winter I haul skis or a cargo box. Its quite useful
I agree. They are very useful for some people. However, if you just look at SUVs in traffic and parking lots (RAVs, Subarus, Ford Explorers etc) very, very few ever carry anything on their roof racks. Most probably are never used for the entire life of the vehicle.
 
My Rav4 came with the port installed roof rails and I took them off pretty much day two. The wind noise is crazy at highway speeds, especially with the moon roof open. In the summer bugs like to smash into them on the highway and sometimes ricochet into the cabin. 😂

I have them in the garage collecting dust, but with all these folks reporting leaking roof rails I will probably never reinstall them. I would have preferred my Limited have the sealed roof rails like OP's picture.

I would probably still purchase another Rav4 down the road when it's time to replace this one, this being my 3rd Rav4 over the decades, but I have learned a great deal from this generation of Rav4's and would probably make some different options choices when the time comes.
 
My Rav4 came with the port installed roof rails and I took them off pretty much day two. The wind noise is crazy at highway speeds, especially with the moon roof open. In the summer bugs like to smash into them on the highway and sometimes ricochet into the cabin. 😂

I have them in the garage collecting dust, but with all these folks reporting leaking roof rails I will probably never reinstall them. I would have preferred my Limited have the sealed roof rails like OP's picture.

I would probably still purchase another Rav4 down the road when it's time to replace this one, this being my 3rd Rav4 over the decades, but I have learned a great deal from this generation of Rav4's and would probably make some different options choices when the time comes.
Don't you mean the crossbars?

You can't remove the recessed, flush mount rails.
 
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Not sure if I am too late for the party here. But this is a photo of the roof of my (american) 2022 Rav4 LE AWD. It has no raised roof rails or flush rails, just a rubber strip in a channel on either side of the roof. In the photo I have lifted up the strip and there is nothing but painted metal. No bolt holes, no plugs, no added plates at all. there is nothing there to attach a roof system to.
No roof rails. What a bummer. Hardly a big cost reduction for Toyota. But they want to make you pay a few grand to get a couple of extra features which should be standard, and in so doing make a lot more $. I guess they don't understand what the U in SUV should stand for. I have ordered a similar vehicle but am north of the border.

There seem to be some circular features in the channel - I wonder what they are.

I have made my own removable roof rack before - to carry 4x8 sheets of plywood, wallboard, long 2x4s etc. I made them out 2x2 lengths of wood and cross pieces with dowels on the cross pieces to attach rope to - all the wood sanded and painted black. I needed to attach the rack onto the roof with metric bolts. It all worked well and you can make a rack which is level too.
If there are no bolt holes anywhere under the channel I wonder if I could drill into the roof and make rectangular plates, attached with bolts onto threaded holes. I might be able to attach a home-built rack onto that. The metal might not be thick enough to thread the holes. I am not afraid of doing this (carefully). I normally keep vehicles along time. Doing this to a new car would be unusual!
In the end I might have to rent a truck every time I want move long pieces of wood or sheets.
 
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Does the 2022 LE Hybrid have flush rails or not?
Not sure about hybrid but 2022 gas model LE does NOT have what we have been calling a "flush mount roof rail" on this forum. The 2022 gas LE has a completely flat, flexible rubber like trim strip in the channel-- not a slightly raised hard plastic rail that protrudes above the channel.
 
Not sure about hybrid but 2022 gas model LE does NOT have what we have been calling a "flush mount roof rail" on this forum. The 2022 gas LE has a completely flat, flexible rubber like trim strip in the channel-- not a slightly raised hard plastic rail that protrudes above the channel.
Thanks. I want the rails, but don't want a roof leak LOL. Sealing the rails wouldn't be a problem for me, but that might void any future TSB/recall/warranty work. Oh well, I am on waiting list for LE (1st pick) and XLE (2nd pick), let's see what shows at the dealer.
 
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