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Replaces cables white same? Giving it another 3 years of drivability?
No, replace them with the new half shell design that might look like shit in 3 years but will still work like all of the other similar connectors Toyota/Lexus has been using since they had AWD hybrids.

I could be wrong, I’ve been wrong before, but I can’t see Toyota going to the trouble of replacing all of these cables with cables that will be bad again in 3 years.
 
No, replace them with the new half shell design that might look like shit in 3 years but will still work like all of the other similar connectors Toyota/Lexus has been using since they had AWD hybrids.

Something I noted 🤔 after looking into toyota high voltage connectors used in past yrs on other models..
They've had variations of open and somewhat enclosed, before trying a totally enclosed design with the new Rav4 hybrid... 2019

finding some issue with it, covered in this thread..😐

Making adjustments 2021---
wondering what, if any changes will be made for the 2023 model yr 🤔
 
I purchased a can of ACF-50 (after reading about it on this forum) for corrosion protection on the exposed braided wiring and connector on the HV cable. I know from reading that ACF-50 was designed for aircraft and they also mention motorcycles. It is supposed to displace the water and coat things so the (salt and dis-similar metal) corrosion is neutralized and the wiring protected at least that is my understanding after briefly reading about it. What about CRC? Does it work the same way? I see many are using CRC; do you know what the differences are in these two products? :unsure:

I am going to have the oil changed on my car tomorrow and will ask the mechanic at TCCN to spray the ACF-50 on the exposed braided wiring and connector after removing the protective shield while the car is hoisted on the car lift.
any updates from TCCN?
 
any updates from TCCN?
Ahmed Ibraheem (from Iraq) came out from the shop to talk with me before he started on my car. We had a long talk about several things but one of them was about spraying the exposed metal braid and connector with ACF-50. He advised against it stating that he wouldn't want to give Toyota any reason to deny a future claim on the cable. He mentioned the Class Action lawsuit in Canada and feels it's just a matter of time when the same thing happens in the US [EDIT: A Class Action lawsuit was already filed in the US]. He feels Toyota will do the right thing eventually and replace these cables that are defective where there is a hybrid power train failure. In telling me this, he DID NOT say that I couldn't do it and he DID NOT refuse to do it (although I didn't push him hard) but he definitely was against spraying the ACF-50 on the exposed wiring for the reasons I listed above. He also told me that my 2022 RAV4 Prime has the new connector that won't trap moisture or salt water from road salt and feels spraying the area is unnecessary. After talking with him, I decided not to spray the ACF-50. I could do this later if I change my mind which I don't think I will. Since he talked me out of doing it I don't know what he would have charged but I can't imagine it would be very much if anything. He did have me walk under the car to where the connector is and shining a flashlight had me feel for the exposed braided wire which I did.

As far as changing my oil, he showed me the sealed bottles of Toyota 0W16 oil and the OEM Toyota oil filter that he would use. He showed me the oil that was taken out of my engine and it was discolored with "sparkles" in it which he attributed to metal debris from my engine wearing in during the break-in period (also showed me the oil in the oil filter looking down at it and the same sparkles were in the visible oil there too). He put a sample in the bottle provided by the company (Titan Laboratories) which will analyze the oil. I will report later on what the analysis showed and whether there was metal debris in it. I plan to change my oil every 5000 miles or 6 months, whichever comes first. If people feel the 10,000 mile/12 month schedule is sufficient then by all means follow this schedule ; it is your car and your money and everyone has their own ideas about what regimen to follow.

I have NEVER had a mechanic come out an spend the time talking with me about my car and then inviting me into the shop to show me things and explain things while I stood under the car looking at the open door where the oil was drained and oil filter was changed. He also showed me the new 0W16 Toyota oil that was going to be put in my engine and it was honey colored and NOT clear in the cup of it he had. However, on the dip stick it does look clear.when you check the oil level. I seem to remember somewhere that the supplier of this oil is Mobil but I'm not really sure about this. His wife, Marcela, is the receptionist and is very nice too. While I waited for my car to go back into the shop we had a long talk about their business (opened in June 2022) and what dealer he worked for previously (over 10 years) among other things.

I did ask him how he makes the videos for YouTube and said it isn't hard. He has his assistant run the camera and has a computer program for the transition/title graphics. I don't know what topics he will cover in the future.

This IS NOT an infomercial for TCCN Automotive but merely my recollection of what happened yesterday. If you are happy with your dealer or do your own maintenance work then by all means continue to do it. For me, I have found my mechanic who will do all my maintenance work (I am foregoing the 2 year Toyota Care and will pay for this work myself). His shop is convenient for me as it was about 25 minutes away from my home. Since he is in business by himself and is not a Toyota dealer any basic 3 year B to B warranty work or extended warranty work would have to be done at a Toyota dealer (and I would probably ask him for a recommendation for a Toyota dealer's name who he feels does good work). This is just the way Toyota works for these warranty issues and he wouldn't be reimbursed for those repairs. If anybody has further questions about my experience yesterday, let me know or private message me.
 
illinibird wrote,
"He also told me that my 2022 RAV4 Prime has the new connector that won't trap moisture or salt water from road salt and feels spraying the area is unnecessary. "
I certainly respect the TCCN, but wonder if his advice not to spray the HV cable connector with ACF-50 applies in areas with extensive snow and road salt in winter. I am in Northern Vermont, lots of snow and salt. .My connector (2021 Hybrid) has the open orange cover too.
as for,
"I have NEVER had a mechanic come out an spend the time talking with me about my car and then inviting me into the shop to show me things and explain things while I stood under the car ",
My local mechanic lets me ask questions, explains a problem he finds, and often lets me look at something, while my car is on the hoist.
Here are pictures I took of the HV Cable connector, while my car was on his hoist for a trailer hitch install. I wanted to confirm my 2021 RAV4 Hybrid had the later, new connector.
Red arrow shows that back of connector is open.
 
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illinibird wrote,
I certainly respect the TCCN, but wonder if his advice not to spray the HV cable connector with ACF-50 applies in areas with extensive snow and road salt in winter. I am in Northern Vermont, lots of snow and salt. .My connector (2021 Hybrid) has the open orange cover too.
as for,

My local mechanic lets me ask questions, explains a problem he finds, and often lets me look at something, while my car is on the hoist.
Here are pictures I took of the HV Cable connector, while my car was on his hoist for a trailer hitch install. I wanted to confirm my 2021 RAV4 Hybrid had the later, new connector.
Red arrow shows that back of connector is open.
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Then you have a great mechanic too! My experience has never been like this. In the past I have always waited in the Service Waiting area and I was informed from the Service Writer that my car was done but not much more. There were big signs saying that nobody was allowed in the service bays/area.

And yes, Chicago has extensive snow and salt applied to the roads in the winter months and he still was not recommending doing it. As I said, he thinks that Toyota will end up replacing these cables that produce a fault in the hybrid system caused by corrosion in the connectors that go into the motor (not just corrosion on the metal braiding). However, he doesn't think this will happen in the newer design with the open connector that doesn't trap moisture/water (I could have taken the exact same picture you show in your post as that is what mine looked like too).

Time will tell on all of this.
 
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I think the cable gate is going to end the same way episode with rusting frames that were recalled of I guess Tacoma’s in the 80’s or 90’s - owners whose Toyotas rusted prematurely got new frames. Owners who under sprayed frames every year kept original frames because they didn’t rust.

Everybody is right .
Good point. Hopefully, that will be the case here too.
 
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Ahmed Ibraheem (from Iraq) came out from the shop to talk with me before he started on my car. We had a long talk about several things but one of them was about spraying the exposed metal braid and connector with ACF-50. He advised against it stating that he wouldn't want to give Toyota any reason to deny a future claim on the cable. He mentioned the Class Action lawsuit in Canada and feels it's just a matter of time when the same thing happens in the US. He feels Toyota will do the right thing eventually and replace these cables that are defective where there is a hybrid power train failure. In telling me this, he DID NOT say that I couldn't do it and he DID NOT refuse to do it (although I didn't push him hard) but he definitely was against spraying the ACF-50 on the exposed wiring for the reasons I listed above. He also told me that my 2022 RAV4 Prime has the new connector that won't trap moisture or salt water from road salt and feels spraying the area is unnecessary. After talking with him, I decided not to spray the ACF-50. I could do this later if I change my mind which I don't think I will. Since he talked me out of doing it I don't know what he would have charged but I can't imagine it would be very much if anything. He did have me walk under the car to where the connector is and shining a flashlight had me feel for the exposed braided wire which I did.

As far as changing my oil, he showed me the sealed bottles of Toyota OEM 16W0 oil and the OEM Toyota oil filter that he would use. He showed me the oil that was taken out of my engine and it was discolored with "sparkles" in it which he attributed to metal debris from my engine wearing in during the break-in period (also showed me the oil in the oil filter looking down at it and the same sparkles were in the visible oil there too). He put a sample in the bottle provided by the company (Titan Laboratories) which will analyze the oil. I will report later on what the analysis showed and whether there was metal debris in it. I plan to change my oil every 5000 miles or 6 months, whichever comes first. If people feel the 10,000 mile/12 month schedule is sufficient then by all means follow this schedule ; it is your car and your money and everyone has their own ideas about what regimen to follow.

I have NEVER had a mechanic come out an spend the time talking with me about my car and then inviting me into the shop to show me things and explain things while I stood under the car looking at the open door where the oil was drained and oil filter was changed. He also showed me the new 16W0 Toyota oil that was going to be put in my engine and it was honey colored and NOT clear. I seem to remember somewhere that the supplier of this oil is Mobil but I'm not really sure about this. His wife, Marcela, is the receptionist and is very nice too. While I waited for my car to go back into the shop we had a long talk about their business (opened in June 2022) and what dealer he worked for previously (over 10 years) among other things.

I did ask him how he makes the videos for YouTube and said it isn't hard. He has his assistant run the camera and has a computer program for the transition/title graphics. I don't know what topics he will cover in the future.

This IS NOT an infomercial for TCCN Automotive but merely my recollection of what happened yesterday. If you are happy with your dealer or do your own maintenance work then by all means continue to do it. For me, I have found my mechanic who will do all my maintenance work (I am foregoing the 2 year Toyota Care and will pay for this work myself). His shop is convenient for me as it was about 25 minutes away from my home. Since he is in business by himself and is not a Toyota dealer any basic 3 year B to B warranty work or extended warranty work would have to be done at a Toyota dealer (and I would probably ask him for a recommendation for a Toyota dealer's name who he feels does good work). This is just the way Toyota works for these warranty issues and he wouldn't be reimbursed for those repairs. If anybody has further questions about my experience yesterday, let me know or private message me.
I think I posted about a US class action. MARC ISENBERG, JASON DELLISANTI, CARMEL MCCOLGAN, PATRICK STACK, PETER SCHUMAN, KEVIN LIM, STEVEN KOSOFF,HENDRICK MOY, ELNUR ALIYEV, BARBARA JOHNSON, TERRY STINSON, PATRICK KEELEY and BOB LOFTUS on behalf of themselves and the Putative Class, Plaintiffs, v. TOYOTA MOTOR SALES, USA, INC., TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. and TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION, Defendants.
 
@Illinibird, sounds like it all worked out and TCCN is the real deal. It's a rare treat to have a Master Mechanic changing your oil instead of some novice kid.
I personally feel he knows a lot more about these cars than many of the other mechanics and it's not just changing oil. He rebuilds engines and does a lot of extensive work on Toyota, Lexus and Scion. These people don't have the extended warranties and pay on their own dime. He does a lot of diagnostic work too for people who aren't getting straight answers or don't know what is wrong with their cars. He's booked out until December and works at his own pace.
 
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I think I posted about a US class action. MARC ISENBERG, JASON DELLISANTI, CARMEL MCCOLGAN, PATRICK STACK, PETER SCHUMAN, KEVIN LIM, STEVEN KOSOFF,HENDRICK MOY, ELNUR ALIYEV, BARBARA JOHNSON, TERRY STINSON, PATRICK KEELEY and BOB LOFTUS on behalf of themselves and the Putative Class, Plaintiffs, v. TOYOTA MOTOR SALES, USA, INC., TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. and TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION, Defendants.
Where is your post? I'd like to read about this.
 
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Interesting to finally hear TCCNs take on applying something to the connector. I’m in the Twin Cities which is similar to Chicago as far as salt and winter weather. Don’t have long to make a decision on my 2022 before it’s first winter 🥶

I do my own maintenance because I don’t trust anyone, not even the dealership, but it would almost be fun to schedule an appointment at TCCN for spark plugs, transmission fluid change, coolant, etc. when they’re needed and make a weekend in Chicago out of it. I’d rather go there than a dealership.
 
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