They made some good points I was not aware of. Now, speaking about the lithium soap glycol grease. Good luck finding it. I just use pure silicon (dielectric) grease based on this info officially from Toyota in Russia.
Not sure why the difference in recommendation in Russia vs USA.

 

Thanks

Thank you for the link and informative post.

 

Why does Toyota say : "DO NOT apply any grease or lubricants to pad clips when reinstalling" ... In the service manual, they dont say so, then curious why this new directive. [are they assuming because new rust free, dust free pad clips are supposed to be used?]

 

where can i find the tightening torque numbers?

 

Hello,

Would suspect that the reason for the silicon grease recommendation is that in very cold conditions, believe it behaves better than regular grease that get quite hard.

Regards

 

In all my years working for a dealership and then as a Snap On Tools franchise Owner visiting shops. I have never seen a Tech measure pad thickness (always just eyed it), no caliper to measure rotor thickness, and definitely never seen anyone measuring run-out.

 

Amen to that. A simple eye check will tell you how thick the pads are. And if there's run-out on the disc, then that will show up as a pulsing on the brake pedal or wobbling in the steering wheel during braking.

Measuring the thickness of the disc isn't a bad idea, but an experienced tech can tell by eye.

 

Here is an excellent Tech Tip from Toyota showing the proper procedure for replacing the front brake pads:

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I just replaced the front pads on a 2012 V6 at 36,000 miles. They were about 3/4 gone.


Do rear pads tend to last longer than fronts?


Also, I ordered OEM pads from a dealer online. All that was in the box was four pads, no shims, grease or wear clips.
Is this normal for Toyota? I had to order a separate kit for the shims and wear clips.


Thanks

 

Many people get ADVICS brand pads( they come with shims) . they are the OEM maker for Toyota.

You can get them on ebay or rockauto or Amazon cheaper than Toyota.

 

Thanks,

Is it possible that Advics was also stamped on the Toyota pads? I will look at the old ones tomorrow.

 

The Advics look identical to the Toyota pads. Nice to get the shims but it looks like the only way to get the wear clips is to buy the Toyota shim kit?
I just looked at the original pads. They are stamped with both Advics and Toyota. There is an S after Advics. Also PV565H-FG.
This was the first brake job on a 2012. The pins were getting a bit stiff and the lube was dark black. Cleaned them and used 3M Silicone paste. Big difference.

Thanks

 

My mechanic doesn't use silicone pin lub / but rather a more expensive ceramic paste.
- to combat moisture & rusting, leading to premature/uneven brake wear in Winter climate (w/salted roads)
- even shim are protected on both sides, along with the caliper pin de-rusting & coating

On our v6 RAV4 and sons Lexus RX350, I always buy MaxBrakes Kit out of the Toronto, ON.
- great price, long lasting so far, thick G-3500 Cast iron rotors
- brakes are as smooth as silk & quiet / brake dust on alloy rims are kept to a bare minimum
- kit includes / drilled, slotted & coated rotors with ceramic pads (shim kit not included)
- ELITE xDS Series Kits https://maxbrakes.com/c-1002950-brake-kits-elite-xds-series-kits.html

^^ Saved $1,000 (parts & labor) by avoiding the Lexus dealership (a month ago), on a 4 wheel brake job.

 

My mechanic doesn't use silicone pin lub / but rather a more expensive ceramic paste.

• to combat moisture & rusting, leading to premature/uneven brake wear in Winter climate (w/salted roads)
• even shim are protected on both sides, along with the caliper pin de-rusting & coating

On our v6 RAV4 and sons Lexus RX350, I always buy MaxBrakes Kit out of the Toronto, ON.

• great price, long lasting so far, thick G-3500 Cast iron rotors
• brakes are as smooth as silk & quiet / brake dust on alloy rims are kept to a bare minimum
• kit includes / drilled, slotted & coated rotors with ceramic pads (shim kit not included)
• ELITE xDS Series Kits https://maxbrakes.com/c-1002950-brake-kits-elite-xds-series-kits.html

^^ Saved $1,000 (parts & labor) by avoiding the Lexus dealership (a month ago), on a 4 wheel brake job.

I’ve also used MAX brakes , good stuff

 

Hello world My car is 2007 Rav4, 2.0 (EU model). I am using this website to check the part numbers: japan-parts.eu

Rear brake pads number : 04466-42060
Front brake pads number : 04465-42140

I have ordered rear pads from parts.olathetoyota (usually buying parts from this or from toyotapartsdeal.com), but cannot find the front pads, it shows not available anymore. Any help on this? Or which website can I use to buy original parts?

Thanks

 

The ceramic brake grease is absolutely needed IMO, because of high temperature developed during braking. If one has a laser temperature meter, he would be amazed to see how hot they are immediately after stopping in the driveway. If going in montain roads or even towing is worse.

Also I am not worried to find OE pads, Akebono, Power Stop, or Brembo are available on Amazon are very good. Those fit to my 2011:

Amazon.com: Brembo P83071N Front Disc Brake Pad: Automotive

Buy Brembo P83071N Front Disc Brake Pad: Brake Pads - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases

www.amazon.com

 

I learned recently from a mechanic to hit up the slots in the caliper bracket that the guide tabs on the pads fit in with a wire wheel and then put a bit of lube on them. Helps prevent uneven wear on the pads.

 

I use sandpaper and my fingers for that
Too lazy to get the drill out, find the wire wheel (I know I have one, just not sure where it is)...

 

what do you recommed for replacment pads? just city driving, no drifting LOL... usually go with Bendix... Thanks

 

Advics are the OEM MAKER. You can get a good deal online.
Some other people say Akebono Brake pads have a little more braking power.

Try Amazon , eBay or others online stores

 

after researching yes ADVICS are good and owned by ASIN,,,, looking for breaking power, longetvity and no dust...

 

They also come with the shims. If you buy from Toyota they dont. That's what I use. I have read that the Akebono does have a little better stopping power. You can search here for some thresds for some reviews to compare the two.

Here's just one thread

OEM Advics from Toyota or Akebono ProAct pads

Getting ready to change my front brakes today and can?t decide between these two brake pads. I purchased them both (they will get used eventually)... any experience with the akebono proact vs stock?

www.rav4world.com

Sometimes Rockauto has good prices. Also a 5% available on the internet

Good luck

 

Although the Auto shop only charged $350 per axle for brakes and rotors, they tried to suggest that the OEM rotors spec do not allow turning (I had about 30k miles on the SUV). Is there any truth to their claim or they just want to get the car in & out since it is quicker to replace the rotors than turn them.

 

Although the Auto shop only charged $350 per axle for brakes and rotors, they tried to suggest that the OEM rotors spec do not allow turning (I had about 30k miles on the SUV). Is there any truth to their claim or just they just want to get the car in & out since it is quicker to replace the rotors than turn them.

Brakes are so easy to do. Many videos on YouTube to show you how. Watch a few and see if you feel comfortable doing it.

You'll save ALOT OF MONEY and know they're done right. You can replace ALL YOUR BRAKES ( BOTH AXLES) AND ROTORS FOR LESS THAN $350

 

Do you live where it snows? If you do then you might want to get coated rotors. The OEM MAKER for the brake pads are ADVICES if you're just changing the pads. Not sure who makes the rotors.

I've read some people here use powerstop. A couple of people said Max Brakes ( Elite XDS Rotors with M1 ceramic pads) where also good. You can search the forum for other brands people use.

You can check out Rock Auto. For different brake kits. Find one in your price range Then search around for the best price and reviews.

Sometime Amazon is Cheaper.

I personally don't do a flush unless something doesn't feel right. I know you're supposed to.

 

You're posting in the 4.3 version Rav4 2006-2012. you should be posting in the 4.4 version 2013-2018. Just for future reference.

 

That's what I was curious - 30k miles. My 2011 has 78k miles and still has the OE rotors and pads.

 

Do you guys use 2 or 1 clips per pad? The shim kit direct from toyota only comes with enough for 1. Last time I cleaned up the old ones and reused them so I had all of them on. It seems like maybe my outside pads aren’t wearing as fast as the inside but that might just be that my rotors are on their last cycle?

I’ll get ADVIC next time I suspect. I always clean and lube the moving posts. Sometimes they have a little rust. My brakes make less noise, feel better, and last longer than if someone else does it. At least thus far.

How long do calipers last?