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2GR-FE Design

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#1 ·
Hi, I have a 07 Rav4, V6, and I was wondering what is it that make this engine so powerful and fast compared to other cars/suv's in its class.

Are there any papers or links about the design of the engine that I can read about or does anybody have any answers that can fuel my curiosity. Thanks
 
#6 ·
http://www.mr2.com/files/mr2/techinfo/Random FSM Data/2grfeeng.pdf

I could not find anything else with more technical info.
That's a good introduction, but just scratches the surface. I'm thinking if someone has a TIS subscription, there is probably a more in depth document there on the 2GR-FE. IIRC, the first Toyota to get the engine was the 2005 Avalon--maybe the "new features" file for that car would have it. I know the 2AR-FE is shown in great detail in the 2009 "new features" file.
 
#7 ·
My personal opinion is that the 2GR-FE is a good, but not great engine. It seems to have pretty low internal friction, is relatively efficient over a good portion of engine speeds, but doesn't make a lot of either horsepower or torque. Toyota really reaped the benefits of using this engine in a wide variety of vehicles though.

I thought this engine originally was a truck engine that was destroked down to 3.5 liters. I do know that subsequently, it gained direct injection and was used in vehicles like the IS350, where it topped 300 HP.

3.5 liter engines became popular in the later 90's and early 2000's. We had a 2002 Honda Odyssey with one that made 240 HP, and the VQ series started out around there and went up to over 300 HP now as well. So, when this motor made its debut in 2005 or so, the power levels it was at were just the normal progression and not anything out of the ordinary. Even Lotus when it used this engine in the Evora, could only get 7 more HP than it made in the Rav.
 
#8 ·
My personal opinion is that the 2GR-FE is a good, but not great engine. It seems to have pretty low internal friction, is relatively efficient over a good portion of engine speeds, but doesn't make a lot of either horsepower or torque. Toyota really reaped the benefits of using this engine in a wide variety of vehicles though.

I thought this engine originally was a truck engine that was destroked down to 3.5 liters. I do know that subsequently, it gained direct injection and was used in vehicles like the IS350, where it topped 300 HP.

3.5 liter engines became popular in the later 90's and early 2000's. We had a 2002 Honda Odyssey with one that made 240 HP, and the VQ series started out around there and went up to over 300 HP now as well. So, when this motor made its debut in 2005 or so, the power levels it was at were just the normal progression and not anything out of the ordinary. Even Lotus when it used this engine in the Evora, could only get 7 more HP than it made in the Rav.
Doesn't make a lot of horsepower or torque? All I know is that I'm VERY impressed with the performance of my 2010 V6:shrug:
 
#11 ·
I don't find the 3.5 as anything special. It certainly has lovely horsepower and adequate torque. The awesome 0-60 time comes from the gearing coupled with the decent power. The bottom gears are quick, the upper gears not so much and far less performance when starting from some speed already registering. My Rav4 will smoke my turbo Jetta which isn't exactly a slouch, but when already rolling along in top gear, the Jetta will leave it in the dust even leaving in 5th gear vs. letting the Rav drop down to 3rd frome something like 50 mph. My Jetta will smoke it accelerating up any hill you want to throw in front of them as well.